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Journal Entry: Wed Jul 30, 2014, 6:36 PM



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[EDIT: 8-14-14] Forgive me guys as I'm getting swamped with comments about this situation. Since the original posting, we have learned that:

1) Pixlett/Toxic is a minor.
2) That if prosecuted, the parents will be held accountable, not the child.
3) At most, if convicted, she faces being marked as 'delinquent', and subsequently placed on probation unless she is tried as an adult, in which case, she would then be charged with theft/fraud, and face 3 years or more years in prison.
4) We have found who we believe to be identified as the suspect theif. From here, we should be able to file something [not sure what yet] against her/them in court.

:iconwitchpaws: and I are doing our best to dig up what we can about legal proceedings to have her delt with. Having her under 18 makes this extremely difficult to deal with legally, and also, each state has their own laws so I have to look at laws much different than my own. (which again, makes this hard)

I will update when we figure things out further. Until then, ANYONE who was affected, please fill this out:


Your Name:
Where the Deal Took Place:
What Was Being Sold:
Amount Paid by buyer (if SEPARATE, please list each transaction individually):
Name and E-mail used by buyer:
Explanation of the Situation:



[EDIT] ToxicMutagen IS Pixlett!

:iconpixlett: - :icontoxicmutagen: IS A KNOWN THEIF/SCAMMER. SHE BIDS ON YOUR ART OR ADOPTABLE, PAYS FOR IT, AND SOME WEEKS LATER REQUESTS A CHARGEBACK.

IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SCAMMED, PLEASE FOLLOW THESE DIRECTIONS:

1) CANCEL ANY PENDING PAYMENTS. THE USER'S EMAIL IS JACOBREDARCANINE@GMAIL.COM -- DO THIS ASAP BEFORE "JAKE HRACH" FILES A CHARGEBACK AND YOU GET STUCK WITH A NEGATIVE BALANCE OF THE AMOUNT HE/SHE PAID YOU.

2) CALL PAYPAL OR WHATEVER SERVICE YOU USED TO GET PAID WITH.
--> www.contacthelp.com/PayPal/customer-service <--- USE CONTACT HELP AND GET TO A REP. TELL THEN WHAT HAPPENED (BUT DO NOT MENTION ANY SPECIFICS, JUST SAY "DIGITAL COMMISSIONED ART". PP MAY FREEZE YOUR ACCOUNT.

3) PLEASE SEND ME ANY AND ALL INFO REGARDING PIXLETT'S SCANDAL FOR YOU. IF I CAN COLLECT ENOUGH TESTAMONIALS, I CAN FORWARD THEM ALL TO PAYPAL FOR EXTRA CONFIRMATION SO THEY WILL HOPEFULLY TRACE THIS PERSON AND HAVE THEM JAILED FOR ONLINE FRAUDING.

PLEASE SEND THINGS LIKE:

-COMMENTS THAT STATE THEY WERE BIDDING/WHERE THEY "WON" THE AUCTION OR PURCHASE
-ANY NOTES THAT CONTAIN TRANSACTION DETAILS (NOT SPECIFICS, BUT THINGS LIKE PAYMENT, THEIR NAME AND SHIPMENT INFO IF ANY)
-BE SURE TO INCLUDE THE NAME USED ON THE PAYPAL (NOT YOURS, PIXLETT'S) OF THE BUYER (JAKE HRASCH OR OTHER ALIAS; PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL ME IF THEY USE A DIFFERENT NAME), AS WELL AS THE E-MAIL (JACOBREDARCANINE@GMAIL.COM / OTHER EMAIL IF ANY) , DATE TRANSACTION WAS INITIATED, PAID, AND CHARGE BACKED.
-IF THEY RECIEVED THEIR ITEM OR NOT. THIS IS EXTRA IMPORTANT.


IN THE MEANTIME, MONITER YOUR PAYPAL, YOUR BANK ACCOUNT IF IT IS LINKED TO PAYPAL, AND ANY OTHER SENSITIVE INFORMATIONS.

I POSTED THIS IN HOPES PEOPLE WILL NOT TAKE HIS/HER PAYMENTS


**WARNING TO ALL DEVIANTS**

DO NOT ENGAGE WITH ANY MONETARY PAYMENT WITH THIS PERSON! THEY PAY IN FULL, WAIT A FEW WEEKS, THEN CHARGE BACK. witchpaws HAS CONFIRMED THAT THIS SAME THING HAPPENED TO THEM AS WELL.

FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT ENGAGE WITH ANY MONEY TRANSACTIONS. THIS PERSON HAS SCAMMED OVER 1,000+ ALONE OFF ONE PERSON, THEY GOT ME FOR 20$ AND BY THE LOOKS OF THE PAST FEW PAGES OF COMMENTS, LOOKS LIKE WITCHPAWS AND I ARE NOT ALONE.

IF YOU HAVE ALSO BEEN ATTACKED PLEASE CALL PAYPAL ASAP AND REPORT HIS ACCOUNT AS FRAUD!! BY DOING SO WE ARE ONE STEP CLOSER TO GETTING OUR MONEY BACK AND THIS THEIF WHERE THEY BELONG! THE MORE PEOPLE WHO CALL AND REPORT HER SCAM, THE BETTER CHANCE WE HAVE OF HAVING THEIR ACCOUNT SHUT DOWN AND OUR MONEY RIGHTFULLY RETURNED.

HOW TO REACH PAYPAL CUSTOMER SERVICE
www.contacthelp.com/PayPal/cus…
www.contacthelp.com/PayPal/cus…
www.contacthelp.com/PayPal/cus…

DO
NOT
TAKE
MONEY
FROM
THIS
BUYER

SHE/HE IS A FRAUD!
BLACK LIST HIM/HER FROM ANY AND ALL TRANSACTIONS!!!

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:iconexhero92:
Exhero92 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
did witchpaws get her money back too?
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Professional Digital Artist
Yes, as far as I know, all persons affected by the scammer was reimbursed since it was a large amount of money. Not sure if Paypal pursued them, though.
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:icongoldendoodledog:
goldendoodledog Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've never used paypal before, but don't you have to be 18 or older? 
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
You can have an account at 13 with a parent co-signer if I recall right. She could have also very easily lied about her age.
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:icongoldendoodledog:
goldendoodledog Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I see. Horrible. Why would someone so young do this? They certainly don't need the money.
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Sadly, there's just people out there who, when they see an opportunity, will take it. I just hope that she was dealt with accordingly. Regardless of her being younger, she still did something that, even at that age, should have been obvious enough for her to realize was not only wrong, but also illegal. I'm sure the card holder isn't too happy right now.

I think really all it came down to was, she was a young girl with a credit card, who saw it as "I can buy anything I want to", and as soon as the guardian (cardholder) saw the charges, she charge backed everything because she (herself) didn't authorize the payments. So it's kind of a loophole, if you think about it.

But let's just hope this doesn't happen again, and that PayPal revises a few things to be sure it can't happen again.
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Pastelix Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
10 grams?
is this scammer fucking serious?

This scammer is ridiculous.
Sounds like this scammer Wants To Go To Jail and Get Sued
I can't wait for this person to go to jail and get sued.
I would be laughing so hard at their face.




Anyways,
I hope those people who were illegally scammed got their money back. 
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Yes. 10. fucking. GRAND. Half of it ALONE was from witchpaws...

Everyone who was involved was reimbursed by PayPal after the initial rejection. I think the case got too large and kept reoccurring, so they really had no reason to doubt what we were saying was true, regardless of the fact that they don't protect digital sales. As far as further legal actions, well, I'm not entirely sure if Paypal pursued them, if witchpaws was able to pursue her legally (since I guess they were very close in living proximity??), but hopefully she gets what she deserves. I don't care that she is a minor, I just hope she was dealt with. 

I'm hoping to create a service similar to PP's but it WILL cover the sale of digital goods, as it will be primarily focused on freelance artists like us.
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:iconangeviil:
Angeviil Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
My gosh! This situation is scary ;-;
Anyways, I hope none of this happens in the future, I guess their family members already know about this and situation must be hard for them. That's why I think people should often get responsibility tests to see what they are allowed to do or not.
Anyways, I didn't get this right, they pay you, then wait a bit, and then ask for a re-fund right after they receives the art or whatever they want? Technically if they paid in first place, how can some people  like witchpaws get a giganticly negative fund? When you get this refund you can get a larger fee than what you payed for? Or did those people use the money in the meanwhile they got their payment? I'm a bit confused xP
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
The thing is, Paypal does not protect sellers against the sales of digital or non-tangible (real) goods. They rip the amount from your account by filing a "charge back" which should only be used if the seller is scamming you out of what you (the buyer) paid for, not vice versa. What she did was technically stealing, and BECAUSE Paypal has terrible seller protection against digital theft, they made everyone lose their case until they got enough of these to the point where it became a problem. As far as I have recorded, she stole roughly 10,000+ total in adopts, art, and the like by using her mother's or guardians' (never really found out?) credit card. Point is, someone she knew that she essentially did identity theft of. She basically just stole the money back for items she DID receive. So WP got that huge negative because Pixlett filed charge backs on EVERYTHING she paid for -- which was apparently 5 grand worth of art. And Paypal dosen't check the case before they remove the money - they INSTANTLY put a hold on it once a charge back has been filed. They review the case (takes a few weeks - this is when you present your evidence to PP and show them why you should keep your money) then decide who gets the money (buyer or seller).

I'm sure after the volume (and amount) Paypal probably had to pay to recover this, I am sure they will work on a solution. If not...well, I plan on making my own digital banking service similar to PayPal, but geared towards digital good sellers - though will be ebay friendly too.

Hope this helps. And I hope this idiot gets what she deserves, minor or not. Stealing is still stealing...
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:iconangeviil:
Angeviil Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow. That's scary! ;n;
That's really bad! It's a shame PP doesn't have this type of protection, this is really horrible!
And how do you guys know that they are a minor?
That's horrible. I hope nobody else gets scammed by this person. If this person comes back I hope he doesn't do this scam-mania again.
Imagine how their parents reacted when they received the monthly bill. '-' LOL

I hope they do get a solution on this '-'. Oh. That would be interesting! ^-^ I imagine something like this could be interesting for digital media:
The person sends you the payment. Then when you finish commissioned work or you send whatever goodies you want, you send the original file to the person in a mechanism that asks: Is this what you were expecting? and you HAVE To insert the original file. Then when you send it you will get a preview. Then there will be buttons like "Yes it is" or "No it isn't" so you don't get scammed and receive a file of whatever else. Or a mechanism like this. Sort of? IDK hahaa. It would be very nice to have an exclusive banking service for digital artists.

True... I'm imagining how this person looks like now, I guess they should be crying and be like "Oh my, what did I do to deserve this?" and also their parents must have taken their computer from them too, I guess? :P
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
It is. Hence why I am going to take it upon myself to hire a team of coders and try and get some sort of service going for artist who sell art freely...

I believe Witchpaws was able to do some sleuthing and got info on this person, I honestly kind of forgot it's been so long since it happened...if I remember correctly, she looked up the name that was registered to the paypal, and looked through facebook and found someone who matched the description of pixlett via her DA profiles...and yeah, I'm sure her parent/guardian had a heart attack. As far as I know PayPal took it into their hands and probably sued the cardholder, since they can't sure the girl as she is a minor...

I will look into it as I plan to get a business degree anyways, but that may require me to start up a bank.

Ahah you know she is...probably some spoiled brat...
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:iconangeviil:
Angeviil Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Awesome! That would be very nice!

Oh, I see. I get it. Hahha.
Woah. Most probably.

Perhaps, I think.

True, hahaha
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7uprulez Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014
So ive been hearing a lot about this person. I see theyre banned, so what happened? Was this person ever arrested/sued?
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Honestly I'm very unsure at this point. I can't do anything from distance, since she's located on the east coast of USA. If I'm right, I believe PayPal should have taken them to court over the dispute since 10g is a bunch to be taken from such a short time and from so many people. If I find out if she was prosecuted, I'll let you know.
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:iconroothragon:
roothragon Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014
What a horrible situation this is. :(  I'm glad some of the artists are able to get restitution somehow, but it hurts me to see how many are suffering from this.

How the hell does a 15-year-old get a credit card ...
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Most of them did actually. A few people seemed to only get the fee reversed but it looks like 99% of people got their money back from PayPal. They will likely take her (or her guardian) to court and sue them for the 10g's that was stolen. And we believe she probably stole it from her guardian, or her guardian had a good reason to attach it to her account and she ran crazy with it (of course, what kid wouldn't, with endless supply of money?)
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:iconenchanted-lilac:
Enchanted-Lilac Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel so bad for the parents omg ;;
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Right?...Can't imagine how they must feel right now. o__O
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:iconenchanted-lilac:
Enchanted-Lilac Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And a stupid teenage girl just ruined everything for their parents D":
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:iconxelectricwings:
xElectricWings Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014
Wait I don't get it.
She bids on adoptables, pays and then demands a refund? That's it? Don't you think you're taking this a bit too seriously e.e?
I'm probably wrong though lol
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
If I was "taking this too seriously" then I guess a bunch of others did too, including :iconwitchpaws:, who had $5,000 total stolen from her (since she delivered the goods), as well as the hundreds of other people who were scammed for anywhere between $5 to 1,000 or more dollars...If you don't know what's going on, you should not be stating assumptions...it's really rude and inconsiderate, and many people will not take you seriously in a debate or argument if you say something like that, and then say "I really have no idea what I'm talking about" -- even if it is stated as you did. I mean this as nicely as I can possibly word it, as I see a lot of people do this, and it creates a lot of problems and angers a lot of people. ^^; Keep that in mind next time you don't understand something, it's better to just ask a question and THEN form and/or state your opinion after getting facts, rather than to state an uninformed opinion AND ask a question, especially if you say "I'm probably wrong" -- You're telling me that you think I am overreacting, when you don't understand what happened, then stating (in different words) "I have no clue what I'm talking about, but here's my uneducated opinion anyways".

Anyways, to your question~

A chargeback is PayPal's way of allowing a buyer to get their money back in the event of unauthorized charges (aka a stolen credit card), a non-shipped item (eg - you buy something online and the seller doesn't ship it to you within a certain time, you can request your money back BEFORE a tracking number is uploaded. Once there's proof of shipment, I believe it's disabled) If she wanted a refund, I think a lot more people would understand. But in this event, she would pay, then issue a charge back, even after receiving the item(s) she paid for. This is illegal and is considered theft and fraud, and for the amount that she stole, about $10,000 or more, is considered a felony and she SHOULD be put in jail for more than 3 years MINIMUM, if convicted as an adult.

I wish it were as simple as she wanted a refund for some art/adoptables, but no. Pixlett used a loophole in PayPal's Seller Protection [it doesn't protect digital goods or services sales] and, once she got the item(s) she would bid on, then paid for, and some weeks later she would issue an illegal chargeback (since she got her items and THEN would take the money back without returning the product, which is stealing) and for a few weeks she did get to keep the stolen money. Paypal was kind enough to reimburse us for everything and now all that is left is to take her to court and press charges -- if PayPal isn't doing so already. The situation's pretty delicate due to her being a minor.

Hope this helps clarify things. ^-^
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xElectricWings Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014
Ohhh
Sorry if I came off as rude XD Didn't mean it
I understand... Yeah $5,000 is huge!
She should really go to prison e.e
3 years isn't much anyways so that's good.
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:iconamy20:
Amy20 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Geez.. I am really concerned about connecting paypal to a bank account.. I mean, how could one avoid these? 
Stay safe.
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Unfortunately, with the awesome abundance of services that the internet provides, there will always be malicious people with horrible intents. This is why many services offer buyer and seller protections, to help keep fraudulent transactions from happening. When they do, 9/10, the person gets their money back. Even if they can't be avoided, it's usually very easy for us to have our money given back. Like let's say I bought an item off of Amazon for 100$ and instead they send me an empty box with nothing inside, and when I try to contact the seller, they refuse to cooperate. If I call Amazon and say the seller mis-used their selling abilities, and stole my money by offering me a fake product, they will usually give you back the money since it's a low amount (for them) and they want to keep you as a customer. They will then take the 100 from the seller and likely ban them from selling, especially if they do it repeatedly. Some places will give you a strike/warning, and then block you from their services, but it all depends on their terms of service.

In this instance, everyone who was affected seems to be reimbursed, myself included. =) So it's a win for us!
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:iconamy20:
Amy20 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for taking the time to write the info, I see.
Glad to hear you guys were paid back at the end, I hope Pixlett has learnt her lesson.
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Oh, I'm sure she hasn't. She's probably crying to her parents asking what she did to deserve this. :XD:
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:iconamy20:
Amy20 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Did their parents even know? For example, I am 17 and I have a credit card on my parent's account but they don't know the transactions I do on Steam. Although it's prepaid, meaning I go to the ATM, insert my pocket money and the credits go into the card so I can buy stuff online. I wonder if Paypal has taken the money back from her, and if yes, what if they took more as a fee? She'd have to tell their parents then if that's the scenario and she'd be in trouble.
Just a thought.
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:iconroothragon:
roothragon Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014
I don't mean to give Pix a pass, but I bet there's a good chance her parents got the bill and were like, "wtf?" and they did some or all the reversals themselves.  Most 15-year-olds I've known don't even know how to conduct (multiple) charge-backs.

Assuming she did this maliciously, she deserves all the hell now raining on her.  Even though most/all artists eventually got reimbursed, they went for a period of time in great uncertainty about whether they can make rent, or pay back student loans, or other life needs that demand a regular and consistent cash flow.
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Honestly I have no idea. We tried to get in touch with who we believe are the parents of who we think is the culprit. They read witchpaw's PM, but never responded. Could have happened, but we really have no idea. However, short of her getting real punishment, at least everyone affected was reimbursed.
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:iconfalconicide:
Falconicide Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I'm honestly really interested to see how this turns out since I'm turning 18 this year, and money is already tight enough and jobs hard enough to get for Australian University/Senior Highschool Students; not to mention my commissions are my main source of income!

To have someone like this roaming around- and getting away with it because they hide behind their age- is an absolute disaster for those of us who depend on our own hard work (and generally underpriced) commissions to remain independent. (something which is really important now in Australia considering how 'by the bootstraps' our current government is on young people. ie you can't get ANY finanicial support from the government for 6 months if you're under 30 in short go to work or spend money you don't have on uni/college/tafe is the options, and you definitely aren't going to get a job easily if you're under 30.)

You guys should really press the parents on this issue, for all you know it could have been Pixlett who read the email (or her parents are just hiding in the corner and ignoring you thinking you'll go away- something which I've discovered actually happens a lot.) At worst, I'd suggesting going over to physically meet her parents. (are you guys still going to court?)
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Problem is, I'm WAY the fuck on the other side of the US, broke, and going homeless. If anyone's going to take her to court it has to be witchpaws or PayPal themselves, or another person who was affected seriously enough to make a case of it that lives over there. Right now everyone who was affected was reimbursed by PayPal but we have no clue if they are escalating it on our behalf.

Realise that PayPal's seller protection sucks for digital artists since it does not cover the sale of digital goods. A good way to divert this from happening is to mail out a physical receipt with tracking that has a physical copy of the completed work, great especially if the person has little history.

I'm not sure if WP has, but they have ignored my FB emails and I don't have money to send out a certified letter. Not to mention I only had 20$ taken from me, so WP is a better candidate to do it than me. Believe me, if we can, we will still see justice no matter how old this idiot turns out to be. The law is still the law...
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MattsyKun Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I personally hope she's tried as an adult. She committed an adult crime.

Time to lawyer up, hit the gym, and delete Facebook!
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I hope she is too. This little brat deserves some hard time so she really understands that what she did was very, very wrong.

However, in good news, anyone who was afflicted by Pixlett's email is now being reimbursed. >u<
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:iconmattsykun:
MattsyKun Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I know Goiku is getting her money back, but now everyone? That's good news!
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yep! Witch, Me, Goiku, and many others report having money given back by PayPal. :meow:
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:iconmattsykun:
MattsyKun Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
CONGRATS. :D
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Partayyyyy!
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:iconcogetta:
Cogetta Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
agreed, it isnt like she done it by mistake she knows what she is doing and hoping to hide behind her age so her parents get the jiff which is not fair on them
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:iconthevampiresrose:
TheVampiresRose Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
and my mom wonders why i'm so paranoid (it doesnt help that all she watches are murder shows) honestly though this kind of thing makes me so angry I just cant understand how another human being can hurt another human like this! I have no faith left in humanity because of things like this i'm really sorry to you, Witchpaws and anyone else who was affected by this I cant believe paypal is just letting this slide! it's absolutely ridiculous people are getting their money stolen and they're just going to sweep this under the rug like it's nothing it disgusts me
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Because humans are the most imperfect species, imbalanced by our ability to "reason" and "judge" with our consiousness. By having this, we believe we are superior, when truthfully, we are just as instinctive as any animal, but we are worse, because we can think through logic and can perform things much worse than anything in nature. When a wolf attacks its prey, does it let the prey suffer because he had to work to catch it? Unlikely. A Wolf would just grab it by the neck and kill it then and there. Quick and painless. With humans, we have the ability to make other people suffer slowly - even indirectly. This includes simply depriving others of their basic essentials such as food, giving them a slow death. Or more brutally, someone who tortures another for the pure sport of it. (Think of people like Hannibal Lector, except real?)

Though remember, for every 10 fucked up asshole who ruin other's lives, there's one person who will rise above the rest and make you remember that not all people are bad. There's just a hell of a lot more shitheads than there should be, because it's easier to be dishonest and steal from another instead of working for an honest dollar.

In good news, all victims have or are being reimbursed by Paypal. =>
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:iconthevampiresrose:
TheVampiresRose Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014
well thats good at least!
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:icongriifet:
griifet Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014  Student General Artist
Well think in the wild. Animals will steal what they need to survive even the same species. It's simply an act of survival. In our world money is power. People kill for ot, steal it, and honest ones earn it. Not putting you in your place but humans have to be the dumbest when comes to the game of survival. We're pushing ourselves to the brink of extinction an d people do stupid horrible things like this person, she does need to be brought to justice no matter her age. I don't want her stealing the money that puts food on my family's table. PayPal probably can't handle this and they bring in the law considering the situation. And they had better. 

But I have a question. What does she get from this? Yeah she gets her money back but then she would have what  she started out with in the first place. With some art. Or she could be selling the art for money?
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:iconcitycreek:
Citycreek Featured By Owner Edited Aug 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How does this person fucking do it right under their parents noses, being a minor and all?
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:iconelectricserge:
ElectricSerge Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
It's not hard if a parent is not tech savvy and can't look at online banking, and/or doesn't have a service like life lock or any theft protection services. (Since Bank statements in the mail are sent once a month usually) Likely she saw her guardian's wallet lying around and took the card and put it in her PayPal, or there may have been a legitimate reason for her parent/guardian to allow her to place that credit card onto her PayPal, and then after, mis-used it, since you know how kids get when they have the ability to spend as much money as they please. Really, all it takes is one uneducated parent and bam, you got a little shit head running around with thousands of stolen monies.
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:iconcogetta:
Cogetta Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
yeah, it sounds like they are doing it on their card or at least with them able to see her purchases. Possible they told her to charge back after finding out to get the money back but forgot what this means for the one she bought from
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:iconcitycreek:
Citycreek Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes but you'd think after so many scoldings they'd have found a way to keep her AWAY from it.
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:iconcogetta:
Cogetta Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
yeah but it is said she is attending college? so possible they can only do it over the phone
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:iconsolar-paragon:
Solar-Paragon Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Hi Cogetta!
Just wanted you to know that Pixlett/ToxicMutagen is not a college student.
She's a fifteen year old girl. (This is public information that was available on her profiles before they were deactivated.)
Just wanted to help clarify that for you! ouo
This entire situation is very worrisome. I hope Paypal can help the artists sort through this. ono
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:iconcogetta:
Cogetta Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
Seems they lied a bit while in hiding, well lets hope they get what they deserve for making their parents lose so much money!!

Yes lets hope they can, it is unfair to the artists and the parents shouldn't trust anyone but themselves with their credit card details
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